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        <pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2026 20:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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        <title>Prebuy Inspection at JZI</title>
        <link>https://piperowner.org/forum3/discussion/157599/prebuy-inspection-at-jzi</link>
        <pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2026 19:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>dnbshp@yahoo.com</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone recommend a company to complete a Savvy type prebuy inspection on a PA-32-260 aircraft at Charleston Executive Airport in South Carolina.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks</p>]]>
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        <title>Pilot/CFI needed for Saratoga SP checkout</title>
        <link>https://piperowner.org/forum3/discussion/157546/pilot-cfi-needed-for-saratoga-sp-checkout</link>
        <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2026 09:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>jeffxjet</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Purchasing a Turbo Saratoga SP in nasvhille in the next month and need a 1 hr checkout. I'm a highly experienced corporate pilot/check airman and just need an hour in make and model to satisfy insurance. </p><p>Jeff</p><p>214-762-9184</p>]]>
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        <title>CFI Wanted - PA32 KCCR</title>
        <link>https://piperowner.org/forum3/discussion/157128/cfi-wanted-pa32-kccr</link>
        <pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2024 18:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Training</category>
        <dc:creator>user1100</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi folks,</p><p>I have a newly-bought 1960's PA-32 300 coming out of initial maintenance in Auburn, CA (KAUN).  I am looking to find a CFI to help me out with a few things - </p><ol><li>Ferry the plane with me to its permanent home in Concord, CA (KCCR).</li><li>Get my High Performance endorsement in the plane.</li><li>Teach me what that crazy "blue knob" is used for...although in this plane it is black. </li><li>Get me to at least 15 hours dual instruction so insurance will leave me alone, and we will see how many more hours I need to be comfortable myself in it. </li></ol><p>Please reach out if interested/available. Insurance has some requirements for the CFI - 25-65yo, 1000hrs tt, Instrument, 25hrs in type, no accidents, incidents violations in the past 5 years. </p><p><br /></p><p>Thank you!</p><p><br /></p><p>Nate Watt</p>]]>
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        <title>PA24 checkout for insurance</title>
        <link>https://piperowner.org/forum3/discussion/157262/pa24-checkout-for-insurance</link>
        <pubDate>Sun, 23 Feb 2025 16:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>adoe503026@aol.com</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi, i want to have a checkout in a PA24. Considering buying one. Insurance requires 5 hours of instruction. Does anyone know of anyone that has a Commanche and can do a checkout inNorth or South Carolina? Would like to do a checkout before writing the bigger check lol!</p>]]>
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        <title>PA-31P CFI in Oklahoma</title>
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        <pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2025 01:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>kjmetheny@gmail.com</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>We recently acquired a 1976 PA-31P “Pressurized Navajo” and we are looking for someone in Oklahoma or near by state to do some training and endorsement. </p><div>
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        <title>PA-32-300</title>
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        <pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2025 18:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>dnbshp@yahoo.com</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Looking for a couple hours training in the RDU area.</p><p>Any recommendations would be appreciated.</p><p><br /></p><p>Thanks,</p><p>Don B</p>]]>
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        <title>Rusty, Rusty Pilot</title>
        <link>https://piperowner.org/forum3/discussion/157150/rusty-rusty-pilot</link>
        <pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2024 03:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Piloto9026</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>The last time I was PIC was back in about 2000, and I stopped flying with about 100 hours on the books. I have been an AOPA member since 1997 and kept up with my monthly magazine reading on general aviation. I joined the Piper community because I recently rode with a friend who owns a Piper Seneca, and I fell back in love with flying... so I joined this community as I aspire to hopefully purchase a Six (or similar 6-seater in the next 12-18 months). Now, I am studying for my flight review, studying private pilot flight maneuvers, and scheduling time with the instructor. What worries me is the new technology; when I stopped flying, it was paper charts and a calculator. Questions: What should I do on the ground to better prepare? Do you have any other suggestions for a pilot who stopped flying 24 years ago?</p>]]>
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        <title>Looking to build 10 hours in a PA32-300</title>
        <link>https://piperowner.org/forum3/discussion/157046/looking-to-build-10-hours-in-a-pa32-300</link>
        <pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2024 00:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>smsami@yahoo.com</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi all ! I recently finalized my purchase of a 1973 PA32-300. Insurance requires 10 hours of dual time with a CFI in type before i can fly the plane. I am still pushing this new plane through an annual and need to get it ferried, etc.</p><p><br /></p><p>Hoping while the plane is in the shop, if any members here have a PA32-300 and would allow me to fly it one weekend for 10 hours, that would be amazing !</p><p><br /></p><p>I live in Columbia, South Carolina. That being said, I can fly for a weekend to most places commercially.</p>]]>
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        <title>HOW OFTEN TO TRAIN</title>
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        <pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2024 23:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Training</category>
        <dc:creator>daviddillehay</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>I bought a Dakota in March this year for my sons, 16 and 24 to get their PPL.I am a multi pilot with no medical with 5 aircraft behind me, but don't even remember my PPL training. Most of this spring was a weather mess here south of Houston, compounded by CFIs more worried about ATP than their students. and they both have gotten less than 20 hours of dual in.  The 24 year old was close to solo, while the 16 yo has only 10 hours of basic stuff with 6 bounced landings!.</p><p>I have found a very good CFI and a back up to start in a week or so.  However the 24 YO has just started a demanding job and the 16 YO is heavy into school and Varsity Tennis. It is a bit complicated because the Prime CFI does not fly on Sundays but the backup does...maybe.</p><p>I am trying to figure out how to make this work but have Two big questions.</p><p>Is one lesson of flying per week enough to keep them moving along?</p><p>Is two lessons or more per week far better?</p><p><br /></p><p>Your comments are most welcome and appreciated.</p><p><br /></p><p>Dave Dillehay</p><p>N8442A</p>]]>
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        <title>Gatts 7 day IFR program</title>
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        <pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2023 01:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>needle52@yahoo.com</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>I'm thinking of going to Gatts school in KS to do my 7 day IFR. Was wondering if anyone here has taken the course since the new owners purchased it and what their experiences were.</p>]]>
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        <title>CFI for PPL in Ft. Lauderdale-Boca Raton area</title>
        <link>https://piperowner.org/forum3/discussion/156695/cfi-for-ppl-in-ft-lauderdale-boca-raton-area</link>
        <pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2023 21:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>paul45c</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>I'm in the late stages of my PPL.  Need someone to take me to the end.  And then I'd like to roll into my instrument rating shortly after.  I own a 1967 PA-28-180 that is very well-maintained.</p>]]>
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        <title>Looking for some recurrent training near OSH</title>
        <link>https://piperowner.org/forum3/discussion/156575/looking-for-some-recurrent-training-near-osh</link>
        <pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2023 02:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>j_dunavin</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>I have quite a bit of time in PA-28 ( archer and an Arrow) but it’s been some time since I’ve been behind the wheel .</p><p>lot of recent time in a C-150 and would like to get some stalls, slow flight and landings in a Cherokee 180, if possible.</p>]]>
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        <title>Looking for a CFI for a Arrow III Turbo near Philly</title>
        <link>https://piperowner.org/forum3/discussion/156397/looking-for-a-cfi-for-a-arrow-iii-turbo-near-philly</link>
        <pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2023 21:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>ifnd323</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>I just purchased a 1977 Arrow III Turbo and I need 10-hours of instruction in it to meet the insurance requirements.  The plane will be based at KDYL.</p>]]>
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        <title>Computers For Flight Simulation?</title>
        <link>https://piperowner.org/forum3/discussion/155129/computers-for-flight-simulation</link>
        <pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2021 15:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Training</category>
        <dc:creator>Seneca38173</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Guys,</p>

<p>Decided to update my home flight simulator, and bought the latest versions of MSFS 2020 and Xplane.  But to my surprise, neither will install on my Windows 10 machine.  Digging into the user guides a bit more it seems they need a "gaming computer," with more memory and a high-end graphics card.  Not really knowing much about my options I stopped by MicroCenter here in Cambridge, and one of the techs walked me through all the models they carry.  Evidently they're all benchmarked in terms of performance on First-Person Shooter games.  Swell!</p>

<p>Does anyone have a recommendation on which computer to get?  I'll probably only use it for flight simulation, since my regular laptop seems fine for everything else.</p>

<p>thanks,</p>

<p>Bob T.</p>
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        <title>IFR Training, PilotSaftey.org, Gary Reeves, Feedback</title>
        <link>https://piperowner.org/forum3/discussion/156417/ifr-training-pilotsaftey-org-gary-reeves-feedback</link>
        <pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2023 18:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Digitalpilotnm</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi folks,</p><p>I'm considering taking (Guy in Pink Shirt aka Gary Reeves) IFR training so that I can learn my new Avidyne systems and enhance single pilot IFR skills.</p><p>His course is 3 days and runs around $12K</p><p>I'm curious if anyone here has gone thru his course and what feedback / comments you have.</p><p>Obviously $12K is a chunk of change...</p><p><br /></p><p>Thank you</p><p>John</p>]]>
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        <title>Lance -CFI - Houston</title>
        <link>https://piperowner.org/forum3/discussion/156399/lance-cfi-houston</link>
        <pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2023 00:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>LastDollar</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hello Everyone, </p><p>I am getting close to purchasing a Straight Tail Lance.  Does anyone know of a CFI in the Houston area with experience in that airframe?  </p><p>Thanks,</p><p>Matt</p>]]>
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        <title>Looking for a CFI in St Louis with time in a Cherokee 235</title>
        <link>https://piperowner.org/forum3/discussion/156373/looking-for-a-cfi-in-st-louis-with-time-in-a-cherokee-235</link>
        <pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2023 18:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>chirugby</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>I’m a student pilot with a 1968 Cherokee 235 based out of KSUS looking for local CFI. </p><p>Thanks,</p><p>Bill Marshall</p><p>773-490-2179</p><div data-embedjson="{&quot;url&quot;:&quot;https:\/\/piperowner.org\/talk\/uploads\/WQUMIL22Y9GA\/09658354-d264-46a9-8f6c-2623b99c007b.jpeg&quot;,&quot;name&quot;:&quot;09658354-D264-46A9-8F6C-2623B99C007B.jpeg&quot;,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;image\/jpeg&quot;,&quot;size&quot;:4533177,&quot;width&quot;:2000,&quot;height&quot;:1500,&quot;displaySize&quot;:&quot;large&quot;,&quot;float&quot;:&quot;none&quot;,&quot;mediaID&quot;:6658,&quot;dateInserted&quot;:&quot;2023-04-06T18:05:01+00:00&quot;,&quot;insertUserID&quot;:18119,&quot;foreignType&quot;:&quot;embed&quot;,&quot;foreignID&quot;:18119,&quot;embedType&quot;:&quot;file&quot;}">
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        <title>New webinar available to Piper members.</title>
        <link>https://piperowner.org/forum3/discussion/156323/new-webinar-available-to-piper-members</link>
        <pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2023 05:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Scott Sherer</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone,</p><p>I know all of you have been patiently waiting for my new webinar.  It's online! Here's the link: <a href="https://piperowner.org/pre-buy-first-six-months-webinars/" rel="nofollow noreferrer ugc">https://piperowner.org/pre-buy-first-six-months-webinars/</a></p>]]>
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        <title>SARATOGA</title>
        <link>https://piperowner.org/forum3/discussion/156187/saratoga</link>
        <pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2022 20:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>OFFSHORMKT@AOL.COM</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>I am looking for a Saratoga and Instructor in Florida to get my High Performance rating in?  Please let me know if anyone knows on an aircraft. </p><p>Thank you,</p><p>Charles</p>]]>
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        <title>Altimatic ii assitance wanted</title>
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        <pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2022 20:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Todd LeClair</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hello all,</p><p>I am flying a Saratoga occasionaly that has an Altimatic ii auto pilot with Aspen 1000 and Garmin 530w GPS.</p><p>Can anyone guide me to a source of operational guidance for the Altimatic?</p><p>I am not having any luck finding anything on line for it.</p><p>I am trying to identify which settings all three units need to be on for flying a plan and more importantly flying an approach.</p><p>TIA</p>]]>
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        <title>Saratoga SP</title>
        <link>https://piperowner.org/forum3/discussion/156098/saratoga-sp</link>
        <pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2022 20:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Todd LeClair</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Can someone verify the proper powe settings for flying both an instrument approach as well as flying the pattern for a Saratoga SP.</p><p><br /></p><p>TIA for any help provided and experience shared.</p>]]>
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        <title>Time Before Next Step</title>
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        <pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2022 15:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>diggity</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Evening folks, newbie here to the forum.</p><p>Got my Private in February of this year.</p><p>Picked up a '66 Cherokee VI-260 in December (N3763W) and have ~40 hours in it. ~3200 TT, ~400 SMOH, ~200 prop, passed wing spar AD.</p><p>Panel was original, so it's currently with Signature Aircraft completions at KMQS (home base) getting a GX3 Touch, G5 backup, GFC500, dual GTN650xi panel upgrade.</p><p>Have ASEL IFR check ride on 10/3, and have 150 hours total flight time.</p><p>Primary mission is personal/family trips within 1000 miles (wife and 3 kids) and also 4 gents + clubs for golf trips which is pushing the useful load limit.</p><p><br /></p><p>Here's my question for you all. Eventually I'd like to upgrade to either PA46 turbo prop or a light twin with some better useful load and speed.</p><p><br /></p><p>What's the GA feel/recommendation on how much experience I should have before I can SAFLEY/practically make this move? 300 hours? 500? more?</p><p><br /></p><p>lmk if you want more info.</p>]]>
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        <title>Looking for a CFI with Piper Dakota experience</title>
        <link>https://piperowner.org/forum3/discussion/156013/looking-for-a-cfi-with-piper-dakota-experience</link>
        <pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2022 00:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>rdangelo12</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>I'm looking for a CFI with Piper Dakota experience in central New Jersey. If interested I can be reached by email at rrddonc@yahoo.com.</p>]]>
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        <title>FAA WINGS Program</title>
        <link>https://piperowner.org/forum3/discussion/155873/faa-wings-program</link>
        <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2022 15:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>russell911</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday I completed the FAA's Basic and Advanced phases of WINGS .  Each phase requires 3 Knowledge activities (i.e.webinars, on-line courses, classes, etc) and 3 Flight activities with a flight instructor.</p><p>The flight activities are based on the licenses and ratings you hold.  So, if you hold an Instrument rating, one of your flight activities will be an IPC.</p><p>I want to give a "shout out" to this very good program that the FAA offers to us.</p><p>The key benefits of the WINGS program are that it is structured to make you a safer, more knowledgable and proficient pilot.</p><p>The side benefits of completing a phase of WINGS is it qualifies as a flight review, so my 24 month "clock" starts running again.  Since one of my flight activities was an IPC, I can check that box also.  And finally, when I called my insurance company yesterday to report my WINGS progress, I was rewarded with a 10% discount on my hull premium.  They are sending me a check that reflects the amount of the discount.😊</p><p>The highest level in WINGS is the Master WINGS phase.  I plan to work on that phase in the near future.</p><p>I highly recommend this fun and educational program.</p>]]>
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        <pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2022 18:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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        <dc:creator>Culver Marsch</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>I am looking for a recommendation for a CFI who has access to a Piper PA-28-180.  My son has his PPL but needs 5 hours of instruction in this aircraft as an insurance requirement before he can solo.  We would like to schedule it for the week of 5/23 to 5/27 (limited to this week due to college/military training schedule).  His plane is down for its annual and won’t be available.  We can come to your home airport.  Any help or recommendations would be greatly appreciated.  </p><p>Thank you.</p>]]>
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        <title>Flight Instructors in the Leesburg/Orlando area</title>
        <link>https://piperowner.org/forum3/discussion/155752/flight-instructors-in-the-leesburg-orlando-area</link>
        <pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2022 01:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Training</category>
        <dc:creator>pilotnmech</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Does anybody know of a good, very knowledgeable, preferably older flight instructor in the Leesburg/Orlando Fl. area? Since I haven't flown much in 3 yrs. I'd like to go back through the instrument curriculum again. I don't need a big, fancy expensive flight school with new glass airplanes, just an airworthy airplane and excellent instruction. Thank you.</p>]]>
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        <title>IFR material: Kings, Sporty&#39;s Gleim, Jepesen?</title>
        <link>https://piperowner.org/forum3/discussion/150499/ifr-material-kings-sporty-039-s-gleim-jepesen</link>
        <pubDate>Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Training</category>
        <dc:creator>AClark</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[I want to start my IFR training and looking to order a package deal from King, Sportys, Jeppesen, or Gleim.<br /><br />
A few CFIs at the airport and other fellow pilot recommend the Gleim.  Plus I see they have a package IFR/commercial for around $350 (less expensive than the others).<br /><br />
One issue with Gleim is that I have a MacBook Pro, on the website it says the software may not be compatible.<br /><br />
What has been your experience with these brands and which would you recommend?<br />
Has anyone used the Geim software on a Mac computer?<br /><br />
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        <title>Density Altitude, Density Altitude, don&#39;t be dense, calculate it everytime!!!</title>
        <link>https://piperowner.org/forum3/discussion/155242/density-altitude-density-altitude-don-039-t-be-dense-calculate-it-everytime</link>
        <pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2021 01:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Training</category>
        <dc:creator>Digitalpilotnm</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hello fellow Piper Aviators, a friendly reminder about Density Altitude.</p>

<p>Today I went out to my field (KAEG) to knock some more rust off my IFR skill.  The plan was to fly a C-172 (if you invert it, it sort of looks like a Piper <img src="https://piperowner.org/forum3/resources/emoji/smile.png" title=":)" alt=":)" height="20" /> ).   Before starting my pre-flight I set about calculating Density Altitude.<br />
Today the field was reporting 33C at around 4pm.  This converts to around 8900 to 9000 in Density Altitude.<br />
I decided to NOT fly because the marginal performance of the 180hp C-172 with me and CFII onboard was just not worth the risk.  In best case we would get around 300fpm in climb.   The wind was a bit gusty, and the temp on the actual runway was probably hotter.</p>

<p>As I was checking the dispatch book back in to the front desk, I watch another group go out and fly the 160hp (with cruise prop) C-172.  I was shocked that they would try to load 3 adults and fuel into the "lesser" C172 and try and go flying.  I watch their takeoff and boy the acceleration was dog slow.  I was surprised they continued....<br />
About 6 minutes later I heard on my handheld that the pilot was requesting to "Return to the field".  Tower asked if every was ok...the reply was "Yeah, very poor performance on the engine..."   They landed and parked the plane.<br />
No bent metal. Thank god!!</p>

<p>Folks, everyone needs to do several things before each and every flight.<br />
1. Calculate your needed fuel and reserves<br />
2. Calculate your weight and balance, every time<br />
3. Calculate your Density Altitude, every time<br />
4. Check the POH performance charts to make sure it is all good.<br />
5. Pre-Flight YOU and your PAX's.  Are you Safe. (HALT, PAVE, I'M SAFE) etc<br />
     Same for your PAX's....  Having a PAX chuck on you right as you lift off would be bad.<br />
I'm sure there are more things I should list, but you get the idea.</p>

<p>As Smokey the Bear says "Only YOU Can Prevent Forest Fires"<br />
 "Only YOU can reduce the risk of GA accidents by having the right attitude"</p>

<p>BTW, Did I mention that you need to calculate Density Altitude <img src="https://piperowner.org/forum3/resources/emoji/smile.png" title=":)" alt=":)" height="20" />. Doesn't matter if you are a flat lander, or a mountain person</p>

<p>Be Safe, Have Fun, Set A Positive Example for other pilots</p>
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        <title>Commercial Training Help</title>
        <link>https://piperowner.org/forum3/discussion/155020/commercial-training-help</link>
        <pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2021 22:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Training</category>
        <dc:creator>MitchT</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>I am beginning to work on my commercial certificate in my 1979 Piper Dakota.  The local instructor I am working with, who is great, doesn’t have a lot of experience in the Dakota.  I am looking for any advice the group may have regarding power settings/speeds for maneuvers, things to do or avoid, and any general advice or input as I move forward with this training.  Thanks for your help!</p>
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        <title>New Seneca V Owner (Downunder)</title>
        <link>https://piperowner.org/forum3/discussion/155059/new-seneca-v-owner-downunder</link>
        <pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2021 06:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
        <category>Training</category>
        <dc:creator>Mark.S</dc:creator>
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        <description><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guys, I have just purchased a new (to me) Seneca v 2001 model, just flew 16 hrs with the instructor to bring her home to the East Coast (Australia) <br />
I am having a terrible time getting the landing right, and come in too low and too flat. I am on 110 kts downwind 20'mp, 100 base 17''mp, 95 final and 85 over the fence with 17''.<br />
Any advice welcome?</p>
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