General Discussion — Piper Forum

Mixture control support bracket mounting location.

STEVEL — Thu, 13 Aug 2026 13:03:54 +0000

Hello, I am looking for picture of the correct mounting position for the mixture control cable support bracket part #63964-00. The plane is a 1966 cherokee 180 serial #28-3757

Overhaul Shops recommendations 0360 a4m or purchase an Overhauled exchange Engine ?

Iflyapiperpa28 — Mon, 10 Aug 2026 22:20:48 +0000

Im looking to get an overhaul/ Exchange on a 0360-A4M. I have reach out to different shops. Does any one has heard about airworx aviation in brewton alabama. How was your experience?

Also Core Deposit? Any bad experiences with Shop charging for saying your core is not reusable and keep your Deposit?

Lastly what accessories need or parts do we need ot send back on an exchange?

Lycoming Extend TBO

scottglenn4 — Thu, 23 Jul 2026 18:21:32 +0000

https://www.lycoming.com/2600

Writing opportunity with Piper Owner Society!

Carieferg1 — Sun, 09 Aug 2026 18:53:40 +0000

I am looking for a pilot to write a review article on a new aviation insurance service. This is a paid opportunity, but I do need a rather quick turnaround. Please send me an email at carief@fergpress.com if interested. Thank you!

Carie Ferg

Owner/Publisher

Piper Owner Society

looking for latest updated MM PA28-161 pn 761-539 dated May 15th 2026

nasavotlige — Sun, 09 Aug 2026 09:25:59 +0000

Hey gang,

i'm looking for a copy of latest PA28-161 maintenance manual PN is 761-539 at the latest revision aka May 2026.

Any links appreciated, can PM.

Cheers,

Pierre

Unleaded Fuel

citrusflight — Sun, 05 Jul 2026 12:58:40 +0000

I fly 76 Lance with IO-540

From my little research I am in anxiety mode. One law to ban 100LL. No solutions.

Three fuel types wont cut it. FBOs will pick one type and from what I read you cant mix them so when on a cross country you may be stuck. Lycoming SI 1070AB does not cover IO-540-K. Are there any effort to delay this (2030) or consolidate one fuel type for GA pistons? Is Piper Owner lobbing for GA?

Thanks all Happy 4th weekend.

RJM

Turbo V band clamp AD

Dsmith — Thu, 25 Apr 2024 03:25:53 +0000

I’m trying to locate a turbo V band clamp for my Saratoga turbo to meet the AD requirements effective 7/17/23. My mechanic can not sign off my annual until mine is replaced per the AD and he cannot locate one. Basically I’m grounded unless we can locate one. Eaton Aerospace is the manufacturer, part #69861-377. If anyone knows of a distributor that currently has one please let me know. My mechanic has been told there is a 18 month backlog so I’m real concerned I would be able to meet my upcoming Angel flight obligations. Any help is greatly appreciated.

Oshkosh 2026

Jack Fleetwood — Tue, 14 Jul 2026 19:10:01 +0000

Who's going? I hope to see you there!

I plan to leave from Texas this Thursday, the 16th and fly into KOSH on Friday. I'll be parked in Vintage. If you see me, stop by and say hello! My name is on the tail!

I'll also be at the dinner Monday night.

And yes... I know it's not a Piper! 😀

Need a pre-buy inspector at SAT

bdickason — Wed, 22 Jul 2026 02:08:49 +0000

Can anyone suggest someone who can perform a pre-buy inspection on a PA 28-181 at San Antonio International (SAT)?

2027 Piper Calendar

Shempinator III — Wed, 22 Jul 2026 22:51:43 +0000

Hello all,

Does anyone know if there will be a 2027 Piper Owners Calendar next year?

Thanks,

Shemp

How to Adjust Camber on a PA28-140

x55pilot — Sun, 28 Dec 2025 06:45:20 +0000

Does any of our Tech People know how to adjust the main gear camber? Thanks

Cherokee door Steward

TMcCArcher — Sun, 05 Jul 2026 13:43:19 +0000

I have an issue with my original sliding door holder. The spring steel rod under the track has a break in it. It is not completely broken. Does anyone have knowledge on how to take apart the slid and replacing the spring steel part? Also does anyone have a link to a parts breakdown of the mechanism? Thanks

External Power PA28 ~ One-pin or two-pin plug?

Mnav8tr — Sun, 05 Jul 2026 13:35:52 +0000

To start the PA28R (1973) using the 12v ground power plug, which one is correct? The one-pin or two-pin plug? I’ve seen them both advertised for the 12v systems.

Oil Temperature Arrow 3 turbo 1977

Piperdan — Mon, 16 Mar 2026 03:16:22 +0000

Hello,

We have a Arrow 3 turbo 1977 and we live in Province of Quebec in Canada. Winter is quite cold here and despite winter kit installed on 2/3 of the air intake, the engine temperature is still bellow 180. There is sigh of water accumulation in the bleeder

I tried last week to occlude half of the last 1/3 of the air intake ( temperature was -5C at 5000 feet and engine temperature was still just below180. And it was not so cold outside.....

Are any of you dealing with similar cool oil temperature?

Are we to expect these low oil temps even in the summer?

As we are relatively new owners, we are not accustomed with the Arrow's oil temperature behavior.

Thank you,

Daniel

POSSIBLE INSTALLATION OF ADJUSTABLE HEIGHT SEAT ON OLDER COMANCHES

MACHINBIRD — Mon, 25 May 2026 15:56:25 +0000

Having lost height as I have aged, I notice that I cannot look over the instrument panel and see the cowling on my, new to me, Comanche 250. Does anyone have knowledge of an STC for installation of vertically adjustable seats in the older Comanches?

I see that Comanche Serial numbers 24-4783 and 24-4804 and up, utilized seats with a part number prefix of 26617-xx, but I have not seen any of those seats on the salvage parts market.

I asked the IA at a nearby shop if he could get approval from the FSDO for an installation of structurally identical Piper Arrow vertically adjustable seats P/N 66984-00/01 on Form 337. The FSDO says no, FAA policy has changed, and this now requires an STC. Apparently crashworthiness and emergency egress studies now factor in to any approval.

Has anyone else looked into doing this modification?

Valuation Advice for High-Time Piper

mbethers297 — Mon, 15 Jun 2026 14:07:17 +0000

I’m considering listing a high-time Piper and would appreciate input from owners who know these aircraft well.

The aircraft is N16319 with a Lycoming O-360-A4A. Total time is 15,400 hours, tach time is 9,008 hours, engine TSO is 4,172 hours, SMOH is 2,762.51 hours, and prop time is 376.8 hours. Next annual is due September 26, 2026.

The aircraft is is really good condition. Compressions are strong at 79/80, 78/80, 78/80, and 78/80. It is AD compliant, wing spar check is complete, IFR certified, and has a Garmin 696, uAvionix tailBeacon, gap seals, autopilot, dual Bendix/King 165 nav/comms, and complete records.

What would be a realistic asking price range, and what should I address up front when listing? I appreciate your input.

Mike

Wingspar inspections in Iowa

Scott140 — Wed, 13 May 2026 12:08:28 +0000

Anyone know of any A/P 's that do wingspar inpections in Iowa? (Eddy)

engine dehydrators

rabrozz@gmail.com — Sun, 07 Jun 2026 14:24:33 +0000

Any experience with Florida based planes? Any experience with 2065 Black Max Engine Saver?

Wing spar repair

condmaint — Thu, 15 Jan 2026 17:01:20 +0000

Just learned that my plane (PA-28-161) has an improper repair of a wing skin in the wing walk area on the right wing, and cherrymax rivets were shot into the spar 35 years ago. The holes have elongated slightly.

The shop is seeking input from Piper on an approved repair. Wondering if anyone has specific data on what's allowed. I'm wondering if the holes can just be reamed out and larger solid rivets installed, or if perhaps a doubler can be used.

Elevator crush repair

Rgomez887 — Tue, 26 May 2026 13:01:23 +0000

Good day all, unfortunately when I had the Cherokee at the airport before being able to move it, some not so kind person ran over the elevator and of course never was told or found out who did it. So I'm left to see about repairing it if its even possible. The corner was damaged and I was wondering, A. how difficult this is to repair. B if there's anyone who can do it, and C if the cost to repair out weighs the cost to replace.

Thank you all for the feedback

Piper Cherokee cowling swap

Rgomez887 — Thu, 14 May 2026 18:11:17 +0000

Good day all, have a bit of an odd question. On my 1969 Pa -28-140 I am missing the cowlings for it and know originally it had the 3 piece cowl set up. I was wondering if anyone has done or knows if it’s not only possible but legal to install the 180 style of cowlings on it. And if the parts are interchangeable, they do appear to be from what I’ve seen but was curious if anyone has done something like this before.

Thank you all

Changing interior plastic color

griff390 — Sun, 24 May 2026 19:17:02 +0000

For years I've been advising members who are changing interior plastic color to use SEM plastic dye.

Recently, another memember (who is refurbishing his plane's interior) alerted me that the product I've been touting is no longer available. Sure enough, he was correct. However there is hope!

SEM has a product named Color Coat, and it is a permanent color change coating for leather, vinyl or plastic that will not peel or flake off. It can be found at auto parts stores and online, including Amazon and is available in aerosol.

I am not associated with SEM in any way. I simply do my best to advise my fellow members what works.

Have a great weekend everyone! On Memorial Day, remember the men and women who made the ultimate sacrifice for our country. I raise a toast to them. 🇺🇸

PA28-140 FWD Wing Spar Inspection

x55pilot — Fri, 17 Apr 2026 01:32:00 +0000

I am attempting to inspect the forward wing spar fitting per SB1400B. The SB states to gain access to the forward wing spar fitting is through the lower forward cabin air vent. I can not see how this is accomplished, has anyone attempted to gain access through this air vent?? THANKS

lights in the KX170B and KX175 inop

reyobs1950 — Fri, 15 May 2026 18:21:36 +0000

My Warrior's lights in the two nav/COMs will not come on. Both the Com and Nav work fine, just no night lights coming on. Checked the old pop out fuzes, nothing popped. Instrument lights come up fine.

So, I don't know exactly where the lights are located inside the two nav/coms, but with both out I suspect it is not an inside the box issue. Something must be disconnected/shorting out.

Any suggestion in fixing?

Cruise leaning

N56404 — Sun, 19 Apr 2026 02:43:21 +0000

For those that have an engine monitor, where do you like to run your engine at cruise. I'm operating an O-360. Lycoming manual says best economy is peak EGT and best power is about 175 ROP. I tend to run about 65-70% power and at peak EGT. That results in about 8.5 gph. I'm usually not in a big hurry.

CHT/EGT Monitor for PA28/180 with Lycoming A3A

kkleinberg — Thu, 30 Apr 2026 19:50:44 +0000

Anyone have any recommendations or advice on purchasing and installing a CHT/EGT - I currently have an older EGT only probe with a selector for each cylinder - would be much better to see them all at once along with CHT. I don't really need any of the additional features I see advertised, like fuel flow or hooking it up for oil pressure, etc. - looking for a simpler less expensive installation. Thanks,

1969 Pa-28-140 ground up restoration

Rgomez887 — Fri, 08 May 2026 17:57:38 +0000

Good day all, finally have decided to post here and start digging through the forums. I am currently starting the process of restoring a 1969 Piper Cherokee that I rescued from a small airport. She had been sitting there for about 25+ years before I took ownership of her. Unfortunately before I got her the previous owner took the engine off and then someone broke into the aircraft stealing the cowlings, rudder trim, flap lever and taking a saw saw to the instrument panel to get the two obs out of it. The aircraft also unfortunately is missing log books so I will have to start that process of reconstruction. I thankfully have a very kind IA that will help in making sure all Ads and Sbs are redone and signed off. Tomorrow I am getting the spars inspected and hopefully pass. Once that is done then it will be more full steam ahead with the restoration. Unfortunately with it sitting so long there is a lot that needs to be replaced and cleaned. All of the help and support will be greatly appreciated as I navigate this great endeavor.

Pre Buy

spsarasin — Fri, 10 Apr 2026 19:24:53 +0000

Any recommendations please for a Saratoga pre-buy in southern Texas?

Thank you!

PA28 Prebuy Inspection in Ohio, A&P recommendations.

Sedsibi — Thu, 09 Apr 2026 16:08:35 +0000

Hi everyone,

I'm a new member, and just put out an offer for a 1973 PA28-140/160 in Lima OH at KAOH. I'm looking for an A&P in that area that would be available to conduct a prebuy inspection for me. If anyone has any recommendations please reach out.

Thanks,

Brian

April AD for PA 28-140 wingspar

Scott140 — Sat, 11 Apr 2026 13:14:02 +0000

Anyone aware of a new AD that came out April 2nd regarding wing spar inspection or is it false ?