Stall Horn for the Cherokee 180

N5262L

Does anyone know if they make an aftermarket stall HORN for the Cherokee 180. Of course, it has the light, but what if the light bulb burns out! I sure would like to have an audible stall warning.

empannin

Your best bet would be an angle of attack indicator. More useful in all realms of flight too

Scott Sherer

Look into getting yourself a sonalert. They're cheap and easy to install. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=sonalert&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

MikeJJ

There are some instrument and aerodynamic clues the Cherokee might be about to exceed its critical angle of attack and stall.

• Ailerons not responding well
• Increasing pitch forces with decreasing airspeed in level flight
• Increasing pitch force in high bank turns with lowering airspeeds
• Controls crossed in a skidding turn
• Aircraft buffeting in combination with any of the above

And, if you ignored all those, the stall break itself!

The stall warning, which may be required under the type certificate or MEL notwithstanding, is icing on the cake.

I remember learning to fly in a Cessna 150. You know, the one with the screechy stall horn. Daydreaming on the bus ride home after my first stall lesson, a passenger pulled the cord to signal they wanted off at the next stop. I nearly wet myself

empannin

and remember no one really stalls at altitude. Most likely stall is going to be base to final and also most dangerous as little altitude to recover. Easy to get task focused staring at the runway and that you are "cleared to land" so you must. Anyone can get low, slow, over banked and cross controlled. Go around before you go into the ground.
The reality of stall warning devices is if you missed or ignored all the clues to get to the stall warning the odds are not good you will heed the warning. On a level turn adding flaps and decreasing speed you can be closer to a stall than you think above 30 deg bank - especially with any skid.

https://www.boldmethod.com/learn-to-fly/aerodynamics/slip-skid-stall/

petericupa

https://piperowner.org/talk/discussion/comment/1433112#Comment_1433112

Hi Scott,

I am looking at your link, I have a Piper Archer III 1998, 24v is there one horn in particular that you would recommend? This would be a big savings over OEM. Thanks!

jacobsja

Cannot resist any longer.

IIRC, the only Piper single that does not self-recover from a stall at altitude is the Tomahawk (due to its intentional design to allow spins). As noted, it takes a fair amount of either active work, or lack of situational awareness, to stall a non-Tomahawk. With that, why not merely put electrodes on the yolk for all the non-Tomahawks with just a stall light. When the stall light activates, the electrodes encourage the pilot to stop compounding the situation and let the air-frame do its job. Maybe even install a servo to add some fuel for quicker recovery. If the pilot wants to keep fighting the plane and get it even further into a stall after the electrodes activate, probably time for an ejection seat so that the plane can save itself.