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Hi folks! I'd like to propose to you this problem: I've got a PA28 180 (Archer II - Embraer 712 Tupi here in Brazil) and already gone through more than one situation of taking all the runway to take-off in (example) hot days (90 F), short runway (750 m), heavy (2400 pounds) and 2400 ft of altitude (runway), wanting to use (as says the POH) 2nd notch of flaps, rotating with 55 kt and climbing with 65 kt to avoid obstacles. Obviously if I don't use flaps I reach 55 kt earlier, but climbing at a lower angle. The question is: should I simply avoid flying in this conditions, or perhaps run without flaps and, once airborne, pull gently the flaps to the 2nd notch or any other solution? I'd appreciate your advices!

Renato Tucunduva, S
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