Hey everyone! I'm the new owner of N3030M, a 1978 PA28R-201 out at KLBE. I'm taking my check ride in a couple weeks, can't wait to transition to this!
Congrats on your Arrow purchase! From the pic, it looks nice!
Post more pics, and good luck on your check ride!
Jim "Doc Griff" Griffin
PA28 - 161
Congrats, Jared! :) Looks great. Have you flown her yet?
Wright Brothers Master Pilot, FAA Commercial Pilot
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I also have a 28r-201, if I can help in anyway just reach out!!
Congrats! I think you will love your Arrow/
Haven't flown her yet, but the ferry pilot said she was great. I'm weeks away from getting my PPL so I've just practicing my landings in the C-172. I'll get more pictures up soon. Thanks for the warm welcome.
I'm on the P-28 page on Facebook and amazing posted these interior posts and found the guy who installed it. I thought the interior was MAYBE a couple years old... it was installed in 2007 and still looks absolutely amazing!
I guess if there is one question I can ask, I don't necessarily want to do a $25k custom paint job (well... I want to, but certainly don't need to, lol). I would like to cover all the small areas of exposed metal though. Is that something any of you guys have done? Don't want to fill in divots, or reskin anything, but don't want to hit it with some rustoleum either.
Touch-ups are a natural part of aircraft ownership, no different than a vehicle.
I'll be happy to help you out. As an FYI, if the areas to repair are relatively small, you can obtain very satisfactory results with good prep and a rattle can.
A few questions:
I've done some light work with little paint touchup pens on cars, but understand how to prep an area, tape it off to stop bleeding or overspray. I'll grab some pics. I'm not looking for a masterpiece, just something that covers bare metal, something that looks presentable.
Perfect, I'll be happy to help you.
Here are some examples of the paint that needs touched up. Not sure what I can do for the textured surface.
You can buy replacement wing walk material. Some of those areas need extensive prep/prime and paint. You might need to work with a local paint expert to get as exact a match as possible (and maybe multiple batches for different areas).
I think you could easily make it look sharp at 20+ feet and with careful matching/blending maybe 10ft away. It is likely the general paint condition in all other areas (not re-painted) would dominate any closer.
It sounds like your expectations are realistic and with some careful matching I think you can get good results.
1981 Seneca III
Hillsboro, OR (KHIO)
From the pictures, I can see that those areas were touched up previously. Eric's advice is good, and I'll add to it. Your choices on the wing walk are peel and stick, or brush/roll on. I prefer peel and stick, but both are good and will last a long time.
This response is pretty long, so you may want to grab a cocktail before reading.
I'm not busting anyone, but there is open evidence that the previous touch up was not prepped properly. You'll note that there are strips of paint missing that exactly match the shadow of a piece of masking tape. This is an indicator that residue was left on the surface from masking tape prior to paint application. Paint does not stick well to bare aluminum, as evidenced above. Aluminum requires very unique prep, and I also do not see any evidence of either the proper prep or a primer coat. If you take one thing from this long post, here it is: the most important part of a good paint job is proper prep.
You have choices:
Having the work done professionally is up to the pro, so I won't expound. You mentioned earlier that you wanted to try this on your own, and that you have some experience touching up. The caveat is that this is aluminum, and is completely different, so here's what you'll need to do it properly.
As far as the screw heads and cowling latches, some of those screws (definitely the cowl latches) are stainless steel. Stainless steel generally does not take paint well. I removed and buffed my cowling latches, and left all the bright stainless screws natural. Years later, they still look great.
For the small touch-up areas, I would use a small paint brush and dab Alodine on the spot, let it dry, then touch up the top coat paint with a small brush.
In a previous life, I did paint work for a living, and am happy to pass on my knowledge. The key truly is in the prep work. I hope this helps you.
We'll be expecting pictures of your completed work!
Thanks for the detailed writeup... I read it a couple times and I'm definitely leaning towards having a professional handle it. I'll make some calls and see how far I want to go down this rabbit hole.
Sometimes having a pro do the work is your best option. My plane was painted 5 years ago, and despite all my years of experience, I chose to have it done professionally.
But if you feel you'd like to give it a try, I'd have someone who has done paint work previously assist you. Make sure (s)he has painted aluminum before. The prep is quite different.
Let us know how it turns out!